Industry Profile: Bob Brumley
By Larry LeBlanc (CelebrityAccess)
This week In the Hot Seat with Larry LeBlanc: Bob Brumley, CEO, Brumley Music Company.
Bob Brumley takes enormous pride knowing that he and his family based in Powell, Missouri are keeping alive the music of his famous father, the late Albert E. Brumley.
Emulated by generations of gospel, country, rock and even rap musicians, Albert E. Brumley, who died in 1977, is one of the most respected and influential songwriters ever.
The Brumley Music Company catalog includes such American evergreens by Brumley as: “I’ll Fly Away,” “Turn Your Radio On,” “I'll Meet You in the Morning," "He Set Me Free,” “Rank Strangers To Me,” “Jesus Hold My Hand,” and “If We Never Meet Again.”
Thousands of artists have recorded Albert E. Brumley songs including: Bob Dylan, Elvis Presley, George Jones, Alison Krauss, Mumford & Sons, Alan Jackson, Vince Gill, Jars of Clay, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Cash, the Oak Ridge Boys, the Blind Boys of Alabama, Keith Urban, Puff Daddy, and Kanye West.
In addition, Hollywood music supervisors have long embraced the Brumley catalog for such films as: “O Brother, Where Art Thou,” “The Apostle,” “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button,” “Daddy’s Dyin’ Who’s Got the Will,” and currently, “The Greatest.”
Available at the Brumley Music website are such vintage-styled songbooks as “The Best of Albert E. Brumley,” “Albert E. Brumley’s Book of Radio Favorites,” “Great Inspirational Songs,” “Olde Time Camp Meetin' Songs,” and three volumes of “Songs of the Pioneers.”
Like most of his siblings, Bob grew up working in the family’s music publishing and songbook business that was founded by his father in 1944. As a teenager, Bob also played bass in a band with his brothers Al, Bill, Tom and Jackson that performed on local radio and TV stations as well at local music festivals.
In 1986, Bob purchased his brother Bill’s share of Albert E Brumley & Sons Music which also operates as the Brumley Music Company.
While working with his father and brother Bill, Bob helped launch the Brumley Gospel Sing festival in 1969 which still continues annually.
In late 2015, The Brumley Music Company launched a series of national programs and promotions to celebrate 110 years of Albert E. Brumley.
Among the company’s new marketing initiatives are an interactive website (brumleymusic.com), and the introduction of a life-sized caricature resembling Albert E. Brumley.
The affiliated I’ll Fly Away Foundation brings professional songwriters into schools and helps kids write songs. The foundation’s series of songwriting showcases are multi-day events at various rural schools giving students the chance to write music, express themselves through song, and create opportunities for creative learning.
Bob served as president of the Southern Gospel Music Association (2007-2009), and currently serves on its board of directors.
Other than the Brumley Music Company being a family business trying to keep your father’s music alive, it is also preserving American gospel musical history.
Well, that’s essentially is what I’m doing. Of course, with what dad did he was a part of American gospel history from a way back.
You operate from an office in Powell, Missouri built by your father. With the Internet, the location of a music publishing business is immaterial today. You don’t need to be based in Nashville, New York or Los Angeles.
No. Dad was never a fan of any town that had more that 10 people in it. He liked being out here in the country. It helped him to be inspired. It’s quiet and, comfortable.
You, of course, do have Internet.
We’ve got internet. We are in the future, boy. We’ve had internet since the ‘90s. With the telephone company here, we had hand-cranked phones up until ’67. Our ring was two shorts and a long. We’ve had Wi-Fi here for about 10 years too. When the phone company went digital in the ‘80s, they put broadband lines in. We don’t have the fastest stuff. We just have a digital service line.
How did you come to take full control of the company in 1986?
Well what happened is that when dad got ill health in the ‘70s, my brother Bill and I bought him out. Then, as we went along, Bill’s health began to deteriorate. He just didn’t feel like doing anything anymore so I bought him out.
Your father passed away in 1977 due to an abdominal aneurysm.
Yes in 1977. November 15th.
Music publishing is a complicated business and many families haven’t been able to successfully carry on dealing with the music publishing activities of a family member who has passed away. Was it a hard thing for you to get your head around?
It was. I bought him out, and I will be honest, that I didn’t know for sure what I was going to do with it, but I knew that something had to be done. It’s like anything, Larry. You just wade into it, and learn the things that have to be done, and grow it. When I took it over, it wasn’t doing really well. I just worked at it, and kept making sure that the things that I did were in small steps, and not try to get ahead of myself. Finally, it worked out. It took me three or four years but I finally got it back on its feet.
Still, not everyone can take on such a complex business as this, and cope. It’s like a garden. You have to continually weed it.
Years ago, before I was married, I was up getting my car repaired at Griffith Motor Co. in Neosho, Missouri. They had put these machines in there where you could test engines and things. This ole boy had a van, and on back of the van he had a little sign that said, “TODD KEEPS THIS LITTLE TRUCK, AND THIS LITTLE TRUCK KEEPS TODD.” That impressed me so much. I know exactly what it means. It means that if you take care of your business, your business will take care of you. That’s just the way that I have worked all of my life.
How did you come to have your daughters Elaine and Betsy involved in the company?
Well, they have always kind of wanted to be involved but I didn’t have place for them until I really got this thing going.
Publishing is a hard business to get involved in.
It is a hard business. Dad always said it is probably the most competitive business in the world because there’s probably a million songs written every day. It’s a different matter of how many get cut (recorded) or get used.
Your son Bobby didn’t take an interest in the family business?
No, he’s always been a military guy. When he was five-years-old he made the statement that he was going to go to the air force academy. That’s what he worked his entire life for, and that’s what he did. He was in the air force for 22 years, and he retired as a colonel.
Was the company a one-person operation after you took control?
Well I had a couple of people that worked for me but it was kind of a one-man operation for awhile in order to get it back to working right, and to sustain itself. After that they went by the wayside, and I got Betsy and Elaine in. They have done a really good job, and their husbands are involved too.
In the past decade have you had to reinvent the company to some extent?
I sure have.
Still the company is still putting out songbooks. How many songbooks has the company sold over the years?
It has probably been quite a few million. I know that we have some “Pioneer” type songbooks that have sold 10 or 12 million copies over the years. We had a company that shipped them all over the world, and we would sell a bunch of them every year.
Betcha never figured out you’d be in the commemorative T-shirt business.
Well, I don’t know if we really are. We will see how that works out.
Well, you are in the merch business.
Oh yes. I guess you can say that we are.
Gospel music goes through peaks and valleys of popularity in America. At one time on Sunday mornings, you’d hear gospel on hundreds of radio stations. With the passing of such gospel music icons as J.D. Summer, Brock Speer, and Glenn Payne in the late ‘90s, the popularity of gospel music seemed to wane. One of the few times you hear it anymore on the airwaves is Bill Gaither’s “Homecoming” programs.
Well, I still put on a good ole gospel sing. Sometimes I think that Southern gospel music is the best kept secret in the world. There are still a lot of people that still go out to it.
[The 48th Annual Brumley Gospel Sing will take place Aug. 3-6, 2016 at the Mabee Center in Tulsa Oklahoma. Among the acts performing are Karen Peck & New River, Great Vision, Aaron Wilburn, Booth Brothers, Chuck Wagon Gang, Mark Trammell Quartet, Blackwood Brothers, the Perrys, and Diplomats.]
The Brumley Gospel Sing concerts started in 1969. Another way of keeping gospel music alive?
It helps tremendously keep it alive. It keeps our name out there, and it keeps dad’s name out there. The one thing is that I just cannot let dad’s music die. There are things that you have to do to take care of that which I want to do.
And not just for financial reasons, of course. It’s also about keeping both a name and a tradition alive.
It has never strictly been a financial thing with me, Larry. As I said earlier, I found out that if you take care of business that business will take care of you. It has never strictly been a financial thing. It’s been mostly to keep dad’s music, and the Southern gospel genre of music alive.
Another way that is being done is with the I’ll Fly Away Foundation.
My daughter Betsy started that in the Fall of 2011. She’s really worked at it. The goal there again is to keep that music alive. One aspect which is really impressive to me is that when they go into these schools, and they teach these songwriting classes to kids that--a lot of these kids are so backward, and unresponsive to things--but when they get into this, it’s like it opens up a whole new world to them. They come out of their shell. They start writing music, and getting involved in singing a song. All that kind of stuff. It is just like magic watching it come alive.
If you can reach kids with music, you can likely reach and inspire the next generation.
That’s right. The one thing about music is that it is kind of a unifier, and it’s kind of a universal language. It’s like I always say, “Have you ever seen anybody singing and fighting at the same time?” For the most part when people start singing there’s something about it that brings people together. It is just a language that everybody understands. I don’t care what nationality you are, or what language you speak.
Your father studied and wrote music at the Hartford Music Institute in Hartford, Arkansas in the 1920s. He founded his own company in 1944, and purchased the Hartford Music Company catalog in 1948 in order to regain his copyrights. He must have been very aware of the importance of the copyright.
Dad was an expert in copyright. An absolute expert. He knew everything that there was to know about copyrights.
How did he become such an expert?
Well dad only had a tenth grade education. In fact, he didn’t quite finish the tenth grade. But he made it his purpose in life, or whatever you want to call it, to study. Two things that he did. He studied word dictionaries, rhyming dictionaries, and he studied Roget’s Thesaurus. He did all that to learn words, and to learn what they said, and what they meant. He did the same thing with copyright. He studied that to a point where he understood every bit of it. Dad was one of the shrewdest guys I knew in the ways of how to apply his knowledge.
The Hartford Institute was both a school. and a publishing house?
Well it was a publishing company and a singing school. They had what they called “ten day normals.” For two weeks, they would study music. They would study the rudiments of music, harmonies, and all that kind of things. Dad, when he was 16-years-old, he hitch-hiked to Hartford, which at that time wasn’t that far. It was only 16 miles from where he was raised. He was raised in Spiro, Oklahoma, and then in Rock Island, which was just across the line from Arkansas.
Dad went down there (to Hartford) with $2 in his pocket. When he got there he didn’t have anything left. So (Hartford founder) E.M. Bartlett put him up in his house. For some reason, E.M. just took a liking to dad, probably because of dad’s determination. Dad was determined to learn all he could about the business, and he studied every aspect of it.
Was it at Hartford that your father learned how to write music?
Well, he did. He actually wrote songs before he learned all that but he learned more about writing and he learned harmony, and he learned music.
Who wrote out the music for his numerous music books?
Dad did all that. Let me tell you that dad was a genius with that stuff. It was just amazing to watch him. He wrote all four parts at the same time when he wrote the music too. That was another thing. I’ve seen him write the leads, the alto and all of those four notes at the same time.
It is incredible.
Meanwhile, he and his wife were raising six children.
He was doing that too.
You and your brothers played in a family band.
Yes, we had a family band for awhile.
Your brother Tom was a steel guitar player?
He was (later) with some big stars like Buck Owens, and with Rick Nelson. He was with Rick Nelson for 12 years. He was also with the Desert Rose Band.
[Bob played with his brothers Albert Jr., Bill, Bob, and later Jackson in a family band that performed on local radio and television stations, and at local music festivals. His brother Albert Jr. was signed by Capitol Records in 1962. When Tom played steel guitar on Albert’s 1962 recording session in Los Angeles, country recording star Buck Owens heard him, and told him he’d hire him if he ever had the chance.
Performing with Buck Owens’ Buckaroos 1963-1969, Tom was featured on such signature Owens’ recordings as "Act Naturally,” "I've Got a Tiger By The Tail and "Together Again.” After Rick Nelson hired Tom to play on his album, “In Concert at the Troubadour, 1969,” he stayed with Nelson for 12 years. Tom next spent three years with the Desert Rose Band. He performed or recorded with such artists as Glen Campbell, Merle Haggard, Chris Isaak, Waylon Jennings, Martina McBride, Reba McEntire, Ray Price and Rod Stewart. He died in 2009.]
You know, I just made the link. Tom was one of the greatest steel guitar players ever in country music.
He was. To me he was one of the best that there ever was. Tom got his start in big time country music with Buck Owens. He actually formed the Stone Canyon Band for Rick.
The Stone Canyon Band was a heck of a band which expanded the parameters of country music, and its bassist/singer Randy Meisner was a founding member of the Eagles.
Tom was an innovator. One of his first record with Buck Owens was “Together Again” (1964). (Famed steel guitarist) Buddy Emmons told him, “Tom, I never buy records, but I went out and bought that one.”
How come you didn’t follow your bothers Albert and Tom into professional music?
I don’t know. I got involved in the publishing side pretty early on. I traveled with a band out of Springfield, Missouri for awhile. We didn’t call it a name. We just went around and played. It was a house band for all types of acts. We went to places where they didn’t have their own band, or didn’t have a band for everybody. I did that for three or four years. I nearly starved to death doing it because we weren’t making very much money. So I came home and went to work with dad and began manufacturing songbooks. Then as things progressed I got involved in the publishing with my brother Bill. My brother Bill and I bought out dad in 1976. Then I bought out Bill in ’86.
You started another company at that time Country Gentlemen.
I still have that.
Brumley Music Company owns the earlier Hartford songs your father wrote?
Yeah, and songs by all of the Hartford writers. There’s a bunch of them. There are probably four or five thousand copyrights in the Hartford Company.
Brumley Music Company has two songs featured in the current film “Greater,” including your performance of “I’ll Fly Away.”
That’s right. That’s me. I’m playing a 1937 Gibson guitar.
Also featured in the film is a song written by your father’s Hartford mentor, E.M. Bartlett.
Yes. They’ve got his song “Victory In Jesus” in that film.
Is “I’ll Fly Away” the most popular song in the Brumley Music Company catalog?
I’m not sure, but I would say that it is the most played and copyrighted song in the world. That’s my opinion. Every day we get copyrights. Every day we get licenses. It is just amazing.
Certainly the Coen brothers’ film “O Brother, Where Art Thou” in 2000 re-introduced “I’ll Fly Away,” performed by Alison Krauss and Gillian Welch, to a mainstream audience. The landmark soundtrack, which won a Grammy Award and a CMA award for Album of the Year, sold 9 million units. The 1956 version of 'I'll Fly Away' by the Kossoy Sisters wasn’t in the film, but was featured on the expanded soundtrack released later. Obviously, “O Brother Where Art Thou” was a big boost to the popularity of your catalog.
It was. At the time it was just one of those things. You know that catalogs have ups and down. I was trying to get involved with the country music side with Country Gentleman with some writers like Jerry Salley. At the time I wasn’t pushing the gospel side as much. But then that came along.
Pitching gospel songs to artists and managers must be challenging. Have you sat in offices and played music to managers and label executives?
Oh yeah. But the thing about “I’ll Fly Away” is that you can’t pitch that song to anyone. You can pitch it to them but they are going to record that song sooner or later. Do you understand what I am saying? Pitching that song is just unfruitful. I have never been able to successfully pitch it but, at the same time, I get calls all the time from people wanting to use it. I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying.
I think I do. If you want to evoke an earlier era of America that is a song you use as well as, perhaps, “Brother, Can You Spare A Dime” (1932) or “It’s Only a Paper Moon” (1933).
Yeah. It’s like when they are onstage and someone says “Let’s sing something that everybody knows.” What do you think that they are going to sing? They are going to sing “I’ll Fly Away.”
Does it compete in popularity with “Will The Circle Be Unbroken?”
It does. That’s another one of those songs that is the same thing. It’s going to be one of those two songs that they do.
What was your reaction when you saw the “O Brother, Where Art Thou” film? And how did I’ll Fly Away” get in the film? Probably it was a choice made by T-Bone Burnett.
Yeah, T-Bone was the one that did it. I enjoyed the movie. I liked it. I think a lot of people didn’t get it. It is pretty strange, but you’ve got to know the Coen brothers and how they work. Every film they do you can tell that it’s a Coen brothers movie.
Due to the profanity you might not have liked their 1998 film “The Big Lebowski.”
I didn’t care for that myself.
Do you have the problem where people think your father’s songs are in the public domain?
You can go out on the internet, and just see how many (unlicensed) songs there are. “I’ll Fly Away,” for instance, has been used so many times without licenses that it’s pathetic. I have been in several lawsuits with the Dixie Chicks, and Puff Daddy or whatever his name is. They felt that the song was PD and they tried to prove that it was. Then they tried to say that it was “fair use.”
[In 2002, the Dixie Chicks’ sophomore studio album, “Fly” was certified “diamond” for sales of 10 million units. “Fly,” however, included “Sin Wagon” which allegedly sampled “I’ll Fly Away.” Albert E. Brumley & Sons filed a suit against Sony Music Entertainment in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Missouri in Joplin, Missouri, claiming that Sony had not received clearance to use the song, and sought damages of a minimum of $500,000. The suit was settled. Due to agreed confidentiality no other information is available.]
"I'll Fly Away" was sampled without permission for the Grammy-winning song "I'll Be Missing You," recorded in 1997 by Puff Daddy and Faith Evans. In 2000, Albert E. Brumley & Sons settled a copyright infringement suit filed against Arista Records, Faith Evans, Illegal Songs, Chyna Baby Music, Janice Combs Publishing, Magnetic Publishing, and Bad Boy Entertainment. In the settlement, the defendants acknowledged that Albert E. Brumley & Sons was the rightful copyright owner of "I'll Fly Away," and compensated the company for an undisclosed amount.
“I’ll Fly Away” was created by Albert E. Brumley and copyrighted in 1932 as a compilation, then renewed with the U.S. Copyright Office in 1959 as an individual single.]
Monitoring unlicensed use of copyrighted songs can be like playing whack-a-mole at the carnival.
It’s amazing that people think that a song hasn’t got a copyright. They say, “Well, that song, it’s ancient.” Well to people in their 20s it is ancient.
You were one of the co-founders of the Integrated Copyright Group in Nashville in 1990. Was it formed because of music infringement concerns?
That’s right it was. The main reason I started that was that we had SESAC. They used to do royalty collections, and they did a poor job of it. So I met with John Barker (VP of Copyright Administration at EverGreen Copyright Acquisitions) down there. I was looking for somebody to help me get started with the company to do this because it was something that was desperately needed at the time. That’s why I started it. There were so many of our songs being cut without a license. When we first started, we found money that people hadn’t either paid us or found that they hadn’t licensed (our copyrights).
You must have had difficulties with collecting from overseas sources as well.
We did. That’s why we are affiliated with people overseas. Universal Music Publishing or someone to help us do all that.
For decades It was the Wild West for music copyright owners
It was. It still is to a certain extent. Some of that stuff still goes on. People see a song that is listed (online as) traditional and the next thing everybody see that it’s traditional, and they go ahead and cut it. And that’s it. They don’t check about licensing or anything.
At the same time, you have to keep abreast of copyright terminations and other copyright matters.
The reason that I have that company down there is to help me keep track of all of that stuff.
Do you worry about when these songs fall into the public domain?
I do. “I’ll Fly away” will be the first one. It goes out in 2027.
That’s not far off.
No but I’m not sure that it will bother me any by then.
Yes, but what about your children?
Well, that’s the thing. That’s why we are trying to build up the rest of the catalog. We are doing things to try to see that other songs in the catalog become more viable. Dad wrote some songs later in years like “I’m Bound For That City” that is pretty popular.
Your father wrote some 800 songs, but Brumley Music Company doesn’t own all of them.
Yes, he wrote about 800 songs. I only have about 300 of them. Most of the songs that he wrote were for the Stamps-Baxter Music Company back in the ‘30s. He worked for the Hartford Music Company until 1937. Then he went to Stamps-Baxter in 1937. He had a contract with them for about 12 years starting somewhere in the mid-40s. He wrote a song a month for them. So he wrote a bunch of songs for them. They are all works-for-hire so they can’t be terminated.
And no way to get that catalog back?
There’s no way to get that back unless you buy it, and I don’t think that you can buy it.
Your dad had many unfinished songs. In 1981, it was announced by Prime Time Music that songwriter Aaron Wilburn would try to complete some of your father’s songs. Did anything come of that?
No. I can’t really tell you what happened there. We worked on it for awhile, but just like a silent agreement, everybody sort of went their own way. I don’t know what became of it.
But there are a number of unfinished songs by your father?
We do have some of his unfinished songs. I don’t know if I want anybody to finish them, Larry. It just wouldn’t be the same. Dad had his own style of writing, and I don’t know if anybody can tap into that or not.
You were pivotal in the founding of the Southern Gospel Music Association in 1994.
The main reason for the Southern Gospel Music Association was to get a Hall of Fame established.
The pioneers of gospel music were then being overlooked in the music industry?
That right. They were being overlooked. Let me go back a bit. I was also involved in the formation of the GMA (The Gospel Music Association). Back in 1963, dad and I met with Dad Speer, Hovie Lister, James Blackwood and J.D. Summer, Jim Myers from SESAC, and (Southern gospel music promoter) Lloyd Orell. A bunch of people that were the who’s who in gospel music at the time, to start the GMA. We had people from the Country Music Association come in, and tell us how they did it, and what was going on. We started with that to help keep our music alive. It was another thing to get another Hall of Fame going there but that never happened with that organization. Then in the late ‘90s, the SGMA started. I was involved in that. It was mainly to preserve gospel music, and to get a Hall of Fame so we would have a place for people to be remembered in museum that people could come and look at.
Gospel was being sidelined at the Opry and elsewhere. It was like, “We love the music,” but no existing organization stepped up to represent the genre.
You are right.
They wouldn’t take ownership.
No, they wouldn’t
How many gospel pioneers are in the CMA Hall of Fame?
Well, that’s true.
And how is gospel music represented at the Country Music Hall of Fame?
Well it isn’t and that’s something that we are working on now with the Country Music Association because they are very interested in getting dad’s stuff displayed. You know that dad is in the Nashville Association of Songwriters International’s Hall of Fame? When he was inducted, he was the only gospel writer there.
In truth, he’s probably the only gospel songwriter people can name.
Yeah, that’s true.
People know gospel singers more than the songwriters; other than, perhaps, Thomas A. Dorsey, the father of Afro-American gospel music.
I know that most people, even in the country music field, can name Albert Brumley. I know on “Country’s Family Reunion” one time they were talking about songwriters. They were talking to Ray Stevens, and someone said, “You did an old Brumley song.” That is just such a natural off-the-tongue thing.
What are your memories of your father?
To me for a long time he was just dad. I never considered him being a famous man until people started coming by and seeing him once in awhile that were famous at the time like the Delmore Brothers and some of those guys. Dad was smart man, and a shrewd man. He would play baseball with us. He was fun to travel with. He was just an all around great guy.
His songs clearly indicate that he was very much a family man.
He was very much a family man. He wrote a lot about his childhood and wanting to go back to that.
Did his parents have music in the home?
Oh yeah, they did. His dad was a fiddle player. In those days, and i don’t know if it’s still that way where you are, but we still have music parties. We had what they called hootenannies. But anyway the whole family played music. That was just part of it.
Was he part of a big family?
No. He only had two brothers. One of them died when he was 8-years-old. The other one got killed in a coal mine in 1943.
One of my favorite songs written by your father is the nostalgic “I Would Rather Live By The Side of the Road.” He also wrote many songs about his mother including, “Dear Mother She’s Gone.”
He did. He had a song called “My Song of Memories” that was all about what he was going through during his childhood. That was kind of his sentimental side.
Were you raised within a religious family?
Yeah, pretty well. Mom was pretty religious. So was dad. They were church goers.
It’s been rare that someone has entered gospel music to work solely as a songwriter. And then write songs primarily with spiritual themes.
That’s all he wanted to do. Nothing thrilled him more. That’s where the song “Turn Your Radio One” came from. People turning the radio on and listening and hearing his songs on the air.
Your father had a signature way of writing songs. He sure knew a melody, and he kept the lyrics as basic as possible.
Dad always said, “Just keep it simple. Just keep it simple. If people can remember a song when they walk out of an auditorium after only hearing it one time then you have a hit on your hands.” That was his philosophy: To keep it pretty simple. He wrote some songs that had complications in them, but that wasn’t what he really wanted to do.
There are no wasted lines.
No. He was a master of words.
For a man who barely had a grade 10 education.
He could paint a picture with words. That’s just the way I felt about him all my life.
Did he make a full-time living writing songs?
That’s all he ever did, yes. We ran the publishing companies, and he wrote. That’s what he did. That’s all he ever did.
What sort of writing schedule did he have?
Dad wrote whenever, including when he woke up at night. Whenever something came to him. If he had a thought, he’d write it down right then, and start expanding on it. We’ve got scraps of paper that have all kinds of words on it.
He never said, “I’m writing, and I want you kids to be quiet.”
I never heard him say that, no. He wrote around us. I don’t know how he did it because we were always doing things. Once in awhile, he would sit at the piano and play a song to hear how it sounded, and then he’d go back to writing. One thing about dad was that he wrote laying on his back. He had a couch that he laid back on. He had a little thing that he’d put his lead sheets or staff paper and he’d write like that.
Did you ever write songs yourself?
I wrote a few. I just never felt that I was up to that level. It’s hard. I can tell you what a good or great song is or not, but I just never felt that my writing was up to that level. I’m not a great one for writing down what I feel.
Did you take music lessons?
I never took a music lesson in my life. I probably should have but I didn’t.
Do you still play music every day?
I do some. I don’t as much as I used to. My hands are kind of getting stiff and I can’t play a guitar like I used to. I sit down and pick on the piano once in awhile.
What reaction do you get from people when they hear your name, and what you do?
Most of it is that they really are in awe of who dad was. I don’t like to talk about myself much.
You are in your seventies now. You’ve earned that right.
They are really fascinated by that (history) and getting to know somebody that’s famous because our dad was famous. It’s a pretty positive reaction. I don’t really talk about that, really.
Still talking to you or with Ralph Peer II, it feels like having a link to something in the past that means something.
It does and it’s been hard for me to grasp that. When people talk to me they look at me. I don’t know if I’m famous and they are getting to talk to somebody like that. I have never looked at it that way. I’m just me to me you know. When I started getting these awards—you know that I have the James D. Vaughan Impact Award (from the Gospel Music Assn.) and I’m in the Hall of Fame with my dad—but I don’t see it from that other side.
What’s been the reaction of your neighbors to what you do?
Some of them don’t get it. They never even got it with dad. They could never understand how a guy could sit around the house a lot of time and still make a living. If you weren’t plowing a field or mowing a yard or doing something like that you weren’t working. Something making a living other than writing words or something like that.
In a rural community people wouldn’t think that writers or music publishers work.
That’s true. I get questions all of the time about what I do. This is kind of an old story, but I went to the post office one day and there was an ole boy sitting in there and he said, “Bob what in the world do you do down there? I don’t ever see you doing anything making money.” I said, “I’ll tell you what I do Gary, I’m just there, and make a hell of a lot of money.” And he never said another word to me about it.
How long have you and your wife Tudy been married?
It was 55 years this past September. Her real name is Delores, but she’s been Tudy ever since she was a little girl.
Did your father ever get to Jerusalem as in his song “I Walk in the New Jerusalem Way?”
No. I don’t think dad ever got out of the United States. I’ve been to several foreign countries, but I have never been to Jerusalem.
Larry LeBlanc is widely recognized as one of the leading music industry journalists in the world. Before joining CelebrityAccess in 2008 as senior editor, he was the Canadian bureau chief of Billboard from 1991-2007 and Canadian editor of Record World from 1970-89. He was also a co-founder of the late Canadian music trade, The Record.
He has been quoted on music industry issues in hundreds of publications including Time, Forbes, and the London Times. He is co-author of the book “Music From Far And Wide.”
Larry is the recipient of the 2013 Walt Grealis Special Achievement Award, recognizing individuals who have made an impact on the Canadian music industry. He is a board member of the Mariposa Folk Festival in Orillia, Ontario.
Industry Profile Archives:
Mick The DJ, DJ/Enterpeneur 04/30/15
Jeremy Lascelles & Robin Millar, Blue Raincoat Chrysalis Group 12/01/17
Joanne Abbot Green, CMJ Music Marathon and Film Festival 10/17/08
Lee Abrams, XM Satellite Radio 11/28/03
John Acquaviva, Fund Manager, DJ and Serial Entrepreneur 07/09/15
Jay Boy Adams, Roadhouse Transportation 05/04/07
Jamie Adler, Adler Entertainment Group 05/11/07
Gary Adler, National Association of Ticket Brokers 12/04/13
Rodney Afshari, Freeze Artist Management 03/01/02
JC Ahn, VU Entertainment 04/10/13
Steve Alaimo, Vision Records & Audio Vision Studios 05/26/06
Jaye Albright, Albright & O'Malley Consulting 07/19/10
Randy Alexander, Randex Communications 10/12/07
David Alexander, Sheer Publishing 07/21/16
Eva Alexiou-Reo, FATA Booking Agency 05/14/15
Marcie Allen, Mad Booking 12/14/00
Jeff Allen, Universal Attractions 08/16/02
Marcie Allen, MAC Presents 06/05/09
Marcie Allen Cardwell, MAC Presents 12/21/07
David Allgood, Bama Theatre 01/03/11
Patrick Allocco, AllGood Concerts 10/05/07
Michele Amar, French Embassy 05/26/16
Mike Amato, Rok Tours International 02/02/07
Jeff Apregan, Apregan Entertainment Group/Venue Coalition 09/30/15
Billy Atwell, AMP Studios 12/13/07
Bob Babisch, Milwaukee World Festivals Inc. 04/02/15
Tom Baggot, thebookingagency.com 05/02/03
Stephen Bailey, EPACC & Deleware Center For The Arts 02/06/04
Cary Baker, Conqueroo 05/11/11
Vince Bannon, Getty Images 07/05/11
Phil Barber, Barber & Associates 02/04/01
Camille Barbone, WineDark Records 12/09/05
Erin Barra, Musician/Producer/Educator 07/10/14
Ben Baruch, The Fox Theatre 09/27/08
Ben Baruch, By Larry LeBlanc (CelebrityAccess) 04/05/17
Paul Bassman, Ascend Insurance Brokerage 08/03/16
Adam Bauer, Fleming, Tamulevich & Associates 02/15/02
Ed Bazel, That's Entertainment International 10/05/01
Joachim Becker, ZOHO Music L.L.C. 01/12/07
Howard Becker, Comet Technologies 05/02/11
Mark Bego, Author 06/15/07
Jim Beloff, Flea Market Music 09/20/10
Richard Bengloff, The American Association of Independent Music (A2IM) 09/12/13
Seth Berg, South Bay Music 01/30/09
Aimee Berger, 2 Generations SPA Music Management 09/24/04
David Berger, Future Beat 10/29/14
Barry Bergman, Music Managers Forum 03/14/03
Steve Bernstein, Relix LLC 09/30/05
Mark Berry, Attack Media Group 04/07/07
Scott Billington, Rounder Records 01/17/12
Jeffrey Bischoff, Cinder Block 03/24/06
Sat Bisla, A&R Worldwide/ Musexpo 03/29/10
Nina Blackwood, Sirius Satellite Radio 07/14/06
Adam Block, Legacy Recordings 11/07/13
P.J. Bloom, Neophonic, Inc. 01/24/11
Rishon Blumberg, Brick Wall Management 06/27/03
Justin Bolognino, Learned Evolution, and The Meta Agency 04/25/13
Steve "Chopper" Borges, Total Pro and Borse Techos 03/03/06
Les Borsai, Mediocre Management 01/30/04
Shane Bourbonnais, Live Nation Canada 03/21/08
Jeff Bowen, Sears Centre Arena 03/13/08
Rick Bowen, Mystic Music Experience 07/11/08
John Boyle, Sanctuary Music Group 03/19/04
Jeff & Todd Brabec, Writers/Attorneys 01/03/12
Bill Bragin, Joe's Pub at the Public Theater 08/08/03
Joel Brandes, Avenue Management Group 11/02/08
Joe Brandmeier, Moving Pictures 03/15/02
Scooter Braun, SB Projects 12/13/10
Ron Brice, 3rd & Lindsley Bar & Grill 06/08/16
Billy Brill, Billy Alan Productions 11/11/05
Doug Brown, Talent Buyers Network 09/21/01
James Browne, Sweet Rhythm 11/01/02
Bob Brumley, Brumley Music Company 02/17/16
Tony Brummel, Victory Records 05/17/09
Charlie Brusco, TBA Entertainment Corporation 10/13/01
Del Bryant, BMI 05/18/07
Cortez Bryant, Bryant Management 12/06/10
Stephen Budd, Stephen Budd Management 07/13/17
Bruce Burch, University of Georgia Music Business Program 10/09/09
Deborah Burda, Kentucky Exposition Center 08/03/07
Patti Burgart, IEBA 06/07/02
Jordan Burger, The New Musiquarium 01/22/01
Ron Burman, Roadrunner Records 08/25/06
Suzanne Cadgene, Elmore 05/19/06
Karen Cadle, KGC Productions 03/12/04
Gary Calamar, KCRW 07/10/09
Charles Caldas, Merlin 07/05/10
Brian Camelio, ArtistShare 02/29/08
David Campbell, AEG Europe 08/02/10
Tom Cantone, Foxwoods Entertainment Group 10/20/00
Tom Cantone, Foxwoods Resort Casino 07/03/03
Tom Cantone, Mohegan Sun 08/30/09
Ashley Capps, A. C. Entertainment 05/21/04
Rio Caraeff, Vevo 07/12/11
Mike Carden, Eagle Rock Entertainment 08/16/11
Charles Carlini, Carlini Group 05/16/08
Mark Carpentieri, M.C. Records 05/27/05
Mark Carpentieri, M.C. Records 01/10/11
Troy Carter, Coalition Media Group 06/07/10
Daniel Catullo, Coming Home Studios 06/22/08
Raffi Cavoukian, Folk Singer/Children's Entertainer 05/11/16
Jeffrey Chabon, Chabon Entertainment Group 08/22/02
Mike Chadwick, Essential Music & Marketing 08/01/12
Rob Challice, Coda Music Agency 03/27/13
Tom Chauncey, Partisan Arts 01/11/02
Tom Chauncey, Partisan Arts 10/04/11
Lisa Cherniak, Artists Against Racism (AAR) 07/20/01
Bob Chiappardi, Concrete Marketing 06/13/03
Joel Chriss, Chriss & Co. 10/04/02
Michael Chugg, Michael Chugg Entertainment 09/14/01
Michael Chugg, Chugg Enterprises 10/02/09
Gary Churgin, Harry Fox Agency 09/13/10
Vinny Cinquemani, S.L. Feldman & Associates 12/13/12
Barry Coburn, Ten Ten Music Group 03/28/11
Matthew Cohen, Green Room Productions 10/19/01
Ted Cohen, TAG Strategic 01/10/13
Lisa Cohen, Associated Booking Corporation 02/10/06
Steve Cohen, Music + Art Management, Inc. 03/09/07
Dan Cohen, Music & Memory 01/12/17
Michael Cohl - Part 1, S2BN Entertainment 03/06/13
Michael Cohl - Part 2, S2BN Entertainment 03/13/13
Bryan Coleman, Union Entertainment Group 02/14/12
Mamie Coleman, Fox Broadcasting 07/05/12
Dennis Condon, Disneyland Resorts 07/13/01
Peter Conlon, Peter Conlon Presents 05/20/05
Tony Conway, Buddy Lee Attractions 10/06/00
Allen Cook, TOURtech 04/16/15
Tomas Cookman, Cookman International 09/05/03
Alex Cooley, Alex Cooley Presents 07/12/10
David Cooper, Foxman.com 10/31/03
Jay Cooper, Greenberg Traurig, LLP 05/23/11
Julie Coulter, Near North Insurance Groups 06/07/01
Amy Cox, Deep South Entertainment 02/09/07
Michael O. Crain, Crain Law Group, LLC 10/09/13
Charlie Cran, The Strawberry Music Festival 04/05/10
Jim Cressman, Invictus Entertainment Group 06/06/12
Russ Crupnick, MusicWatch, Inc. 07/23/15
Todd Culberhouse, Vision Management /Vision Records and Entertainment 09/05/08
Tony D'Amelio, Washington Speakers Bureau 04/21/06
Ruth Daniel, In Place of War 08/09/17
Ray Danniels, Standing Room Only Management, and the Anthem Entertainment Group 03/05/15
Ken Dashow, WAXQ-FM (l04.3 FM) - New York 09/08/06
Hal David, Lyricist 07/26/11
David Davidian, Independant Lighting Designer/Director 06/18/04
Anthony Davis, D&L Entertainment Services, Inc. 03/02/01
Chip Davis, American Gramaphone/Mannheim Steamroller 05/31/02
Mitch Davis, Tempest Entertainment 07/16/04
Jeff Dawson, Canadian Recording Services 06/08/08
Desiree Day, USO Celebrity Entertainment 08/10/01
Shauna de Cartier, Six Shooter Records/Six Shooter Management 10/23/13
Gene DeAnna, The Library of Congress 02/21/12
Vincent Degiorgio, Chapter 2 Productions 08/01/13
Tony DeLauro, DeLauro Management 12/23/04
Valerie Denn, Val Denn Agency 04/30/01
Val Denn, Val Denn Agency 03/06/14
Robert DePugh, Alligator Records 07/29/05
Tom Derr, Rock Ridge Music 10/29/04
Paul Dexter, Masterworks Lighting Design and Road Cases 12/10/04
Marty Diamond, Paradigm 01/22/10
Glenn Dicker, Redeye Distribution/Yep Roc Records 07/07/06
Barry Dickins, International Talent Booking Agency 06/06/13
Jim Digby, Event Safety Alliance 09/01/16
Mark Dinerstein, The Knitting Factory 11/17/06
Neill Dixon, Canadian Music Week 03/03/16
Thomas Dolby, Musician, academic, technologist, and author 11/09/16
Jasper Donat, Music Matters 2009/Branded 04/24/09
Jim Donio, National Association of Recording Merchandisers 04/22/11
Marc Dottore, M. Dottore Management 04/11/03
Tim Drake, The Roots Agency 12/12/08
Mike Dreese, Newbury Comics 11/23/11
Charles Driebe, Blind Ambition Management Ltd. 09/22/06
Jeremy Driesen, Ray Bloch Productions 09/07/01
Michael Drumm, Music Link Productions 07/18/08
Angie Dunn, Lucky Artist Booking 10/13/06
Jay Durgan, MEDIAmobz 11/09/11
Erik Dyce, City and County of Denver's Division of Theatres & Arenas 08/02/02
Erik Dyce, City and County of Denver’s Division of Theatres and Arenas 08/23/10
Paolo d’Alessandro, International Solutions 06/25/14
Ros Earls, 140dB Management 02/19/14
Art Edelstein, Festival Productions 12/01/02
Bruce Eisenberg, Audio Analysts 08/31/01
Martin Elbourne, The Glastonbury Festival 12/18/09
Michael Elder, Red Entertainment 03/17/06
Tod Elmore, Sixthman 11/24/06
Paul Emery, Clear Channel Entertainment 11/19/04
Arty Erk, Citrin Cooperman 04/27/16
Joe Escalante, Kung Fu Records 07/08/05
Colin Escott, Music Historian/Journalist 07/18/11
Ritch Esra, The Music Business Registry 09/27/02
Ritch Esra, The Music Business Registry 04/24/12
Mike Esterman, Esterman Entertainment 09/01/06
Jeff Eyrich, BePop Records 11/25/05
Bob Ezrin, Bigger Picture Group 05/24/09
Lisa Fancher, Frontier Records 08/09/10
Rick Farman, Superfly Productions 10/15/04
Ray Farrell, eMusic 06/09/06
Sam Feldman, S.L. Feldman & Associates 10/25/02
Bob Feldman, Red House Records 11/24/02
Charlie Feldman, BMI 08/26/05
Paul Fenn, Asgard Promotions 11/22/09
Debra "Fergy" Ferguson, TourDesign 08/01/03
Pete Fisher, Grand Ole Opry 09/11/09
David Fishof, David Fishof Presents 01/08/01
David Fishof, Rock 'N Roll Fantasy 10/05/08
David Fishof, Rock ’n’ Roll Fantasy Camp 02/28/12
Mike Flanagin, New England Country Music Festival 09/12/08
Joel Flatow, RIAA 12/13/11
Jim Fleming, Fleming Artists 03/20/10
Joe Fletcher, Joe Fletcher Presents 01/12/06
Jeff Fluhr, StubHub 10/06/06
Nancy Fly, The Nancy Fly Agency 04/02/04
Arthur Fogel, Live Nation 08/09/09
Martin Folkman, Independent Music Awards & Music Resource Group 08/11/06
Belle Forino, Fantasma Tours 03/18/05
Fletcher Foster, Universal Records South 07/31/09
Sam Foxman, Contemporary Productions 01/06/06
Todd Frank, 4Star Entertainment, LLC 01/24/03
Bob Frank, Koch Entertainment 01/09/09
Larry Frank, Frank Productions 01/17/11
Mike Fraser, Record Producer/Engineer 10/11/08
Carl Freed, Metropolitan Entertainment 06/22/01
Elizabeth Freund, Beautiful Day Media & Management 01/26/07
Harlan Frey, Roadrunner Records 07/11/03
Adam Friedman, Nederlander Concerts 06/22/07
Ted Gardner, Larrikin Management 04/25/03
Daniel Gélinas, Festival d’été de Québec 05/23/13
Marci Geller, Sonic Underground 08/15/08
Chris Gero, Yamaha Entertainment Group 10/26/16
Steve Gerstman, SGS 07/19/02
Sandra Gibson, The Association of Performing Arts Presenters 01/09/04
Sandra L. Gibson, Association of Performing Arts Presenters 01/16/09
Steve Gietka, Trump Properties 07/30/01
Steve Gietka, SMG Entertainment 03/19/14
Darren Gilmore, Watchdog Management 03/17/16
Daniel Glass, Glassnote Entertainment Group 10/16/14
Jake Gold, The Management Trust 04/13/01
Neil Goldberg, Cirque Productions 09/07/07
Harris Goldberg, Concert Ideas 06/27/11
Neil Goldberg, Cirque Productions 04/16/14
Martin Goldschmidt, Cooking Vinyl Group 09/29/16
Harvey Goldsmith, Harvey Goldsmith Productions 06/28/10
Michael Goldstein, RockPoP Gallery 11/09/07
Seth Goldstein, Turntable.fm 09/20/11
Anna Paula Goncalves, CEO Global Brand Appeal 08/20/14
Arnie Goodman, Blue Storm Music 11/15/02
Wesley Goodman, Red Entertainment 09/16/05
Richard Goodstone, Superfly Productions 01/27/06
Christie Goodwin, Photographer 03/18/15
Rob Gordon, What Are Records? LTD 02/01/02
Steve Gordon, Entertainment Attorney 08/06/04
Yoav Goren, Immediate Music & Imperativa Records 06/10/14
Mike Gormley, L.A. Personal Development 11/10/06
Jonathan Gosselin, Gosselin Marketing & Promotions 07/02/04
Richard Gottehrer, The Orchard 04/10/09
Sean Goulding, The Agency Group London 09/12/12
Jerimaya Grabher, RPM Direct 09/26/03
Mary Granata, The Granata Agency 09/06/10
Kelly Graves, Providence Performing Arts Center/Professional Facilities Management 01/20/02
Stan Green, Stanley A. Green Lighting and Productions 12/12/03
Mark Green, Celebrity Talent Agency Inc. / Bergen Performing Arts Center 08/12/05
Jeffrey Green, Americana Music Association 03/10/06
Paul Green, The School of Rock 07/06/08
Benjy Grinberg, Rostrum Records 12/06/11
Brent Grulke, SXSW 03/06/09
Michael Gudinski, The Mushroom Group 10/29/15
Phil Guiliano, CIE USA Entertainment Inc. & OCESA PRESENTS Inc. 03/25/05
Steve Gumble, SBG Productions 06/16/06
Greg Hagglund, Vivelo! 05/07/04
Rodney Hall, FAME Music Group 11/06/09
Rob Hallett, Robomagic 02/05/15
Craig Hankenson, Producers, Inc 02/23/06
Kerry Hansen, Wynonna Incorporated 10/03/03
Eric Hanson, Ted Kurland Associates 12/20/02
Eric Hanson, Tree Lawn Artists 03/23/07
Rusty Harmon, MTM Music Management 12/06/07
Ali Harnell, Clear Channel Entertainment Nashville 08/15/03
Bob Harris, 02/06/09
Evan Harrison, Huka Entertainment 12/08/16
David Hart, The Agency Group 02/20/04
Laura Hassler, Musicians without Borders 12/02/15
Abe Hathot, Musician, composer, and music producer. 12/21/16
Steve Hecht, Piedmont Talent 08/29/12
Travis Hellyer, Mezzanine 09/02/05
Janie Hendrix, Experience Hendrix 02/01/10
Nona Hendryx, Rhythmbank Entertainment 06/02/06
Dan Herrington, Dualtone Records 07/25/03
Sara Hickman, Sleeveless/Stingray 06/30/06
Dan Hirsch, On Board Entertainment 04/04/03
Nick Hobbs, Charmenko 12/14/01
Carel Hoffman, Hilltop Live/Oppikoppi Productions 11/07/12
Ian Hogarth, Songkick 08/09/11
Gene Hollister, Rose Presents 04/08/01
Rusty Hooker, Rock Steady Management Agency 02/16/01
Jake Hooker, Hook Entertainment 05/10/02
Martin Hopewell, Primary Talent International 04/19/02
Tom Hoppa, TKO Booking Agency 09/29/06
Bobbie Horowitz, Times Square Group 01/04/02
Barney Hoskyns, Rock's Backpages 11/01/11
Bruce Houghton, Skyline Music 10/27/00
Bruce Houghton, Skyline Music 01/22/14
Andi Howard, Peak Records and Andi Howard Entertainment 09/02/03
Barbara Hubbard, ACTS 09/12/03
Laurent Hubert, BMG US 11/12/15
Seth Hurwitz, I.M.P. 04/20/09
Ariel Hyatt, Author, and founder of Cyber PR 11/23/16
Mark Hyman, Ashley Talent International 11/09/01
Brett Hyman, Category 5 Entertainment 07/23/04
Bruce Iglauer, Alligator Records 08/17/01
Bruce Iglauer, Alligator Records 05/28/14
Doug Isaac, Super Bowl Concert Series Producer (EXI) 08/24/01
David Israelite, National Music Publishers' Association 11/29/08
Tom Jackson, Tom Jackson Productions 02/06/13
Jay Jacobs, Parc Landon 09/21/07
Larry Jacobson, World Audience 09/17/04
Audra Jaeger, The Management Trust 05/09/03
Ralph James, The Agency Group 01/31/11
Jeffrey Jampol, Jampol Artist Management 07/18/12
Jean Michel Jarre, International Confederation of Societies of Authors and Composers (CISAC) 06/19/13
Michael Jaworek, The Birchmere 05/08/09
Peter Jesperson, New West Records 11/03/06
John Jeter, The Handlebar 08/15/12
Mike Johnson, Groundrush Media 02/17/06
Andrea Johnson, ICM Partners 11/02/17
Mike Gormley & Jolene Pellant, Yes, Dear Entertainment 04/23/10
Susan Joseph, Justice Entertainment Group 02/21/11
Darren Julien, Julien's Auctions 10/25/10
Henry Juszkiewicz, Gibson Guitars 09/28/10
Justin Kalifowitz, Downtown Publishing 04/20/17
Leonard Kalikow, Music Business Reference, Inc. 06/26/08
Craig Kallman, Atlantic Records 03/20/09
Steve Kane, Warner Music Canada 02/09/17
Danny Kapilian, Independent Producer 07/12/02
Mike Kappus, The Rosebud Agency 10/26/09
Andy Kaufman, Birdland 05/17/02
Wendy Kay, Mars Talent Agency 03/09/01
Lucas Keller, The Collective 03/22/11
Marty Kern, Clemson University 07/07/01
Carlos Keyes, Red Entertainment 10/08/04
Golnar Khosrowshahi, Reservoir Media Management 10/24/12
Martin Kierszenbaum, Interscope/Cherrytree Records 09/06/09
Barney Kilpatrick, Rattlesby Records 10/28/05
John Kinsner, The Walnut Room 03/28/08
Doug Kirby, LiveTourArtists 10/24/03
Steve Kirsner, Compaq Center 06/29/01
JoAnne Klabin, Sweet Relief 03/21/03
Andrew Klein, Revolution Marketing 11/05/04
Larry Klein, Producer, bassist, songwriter 03/13/12
Jack Kleinsinger, Highlights in Jazz 04/25/08
Ann Kline, Casa Kline 09/04/14
Brian Knaff, Talent Buyers Network 09/29/01
Kymberlee Knight, IEBA 11/16/00
Mike Kociela, 360 Productions 05/30/08
Stefan Kohlmeyer, Bach Technology 02/08/10
Lily Kohn, Microsoft Corporation 02/14/11
Tim Kolleth, Alligator Records 01/25/08
Al Kooper, Musician/songwriter/producer/author 02/06/14
Mitchell Koulouris, Digital Musicworks International, Inc. 02/11/05
Mark Krantz, John Schreiber Group 06/15/01
Jeff Krasno, Velour Music Group 11/19/07
Jeffrey Kruger, The Kruger Organisation 01/25/02
Harvey Kubernik, Author/historian/music journalist 08/20/15
Ted Kurland, Ted Kurland Associates 01/15/01
Jordan Kurland, Zeitgeist Artist Management 08/23/11
Carianne Laguna, Blackheart Records 03/07/08
Brady Lahr, Kufala Recordings 04/30/04
Ernie Lake, EL Records 01/19/07
Roks Lam, Wolfman Jack Entertainment 12/17/04
Anni Lam, Parc Landon 06/29/07
Gary Lane, CenterLane Attractions 10/14/05
Tom LaPenna, Lucky Man Productions 09/10/04
Camilo Lara, EMI Music Mexico/MIS 08/10/07
Gary Lashinsky, Lipizzaner Tours 05/13/05
Gregg Latterman, Aware Records 12/13/02
Tony Laurenson, Eat to the Beat 02/27/04
Emily Lazar, The Lodge 10/15/15
Bill Leabody, Leabody Systems 06/10/05
Peter Leak, 24-7 Worldwide Management 03/28/12
Steve Leeds, SR. VP/Promotion/Rock Formats at Virgin Records 07/26/02
Elliot Lefko, Goldenvoice 09/21/17
Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter 11/14/08
Carl Leighton-Pope, Leighton-Pope Organisation 07/05/09
Steve Lemon, Live 4 Live, Inc. 12/06/02
Randy Lennox, Universal Music Canada 06/24/15
Simma Levine, Disson Furst and Partners 11/10/00
Andy Levine, Sixthman 06/08/07
Rich Levy, Clear Channel Entertainment Properties 06/25/04
Eddie Levy, Chelsea Music Publishing 07/24/14
Myles Lewis, Denise Rich Songs 12/20/10
Adam Lewis, Planetary Group 01/20/16
Terry Lickona, Austin City Limits 03/14/11
Justine Liddelow, Stage and Screen Travel Services 08/31/11
Jim Lidestri, Border City Media 09/03/15
Larry Lieberman, 4EverWild 03/28/03
Eric Lilavois, Crown City Studios, and London Bridge Studio 12/10/14
Miriam Linna, Norton Records 05/18/17
Marc Lipkin, Alligator Records 03/05/05
Tommy LiPuma (Part 1), Verve Records 11/08/10
Tommy LiPuma (Part 2), Verve Records 11/15/10
Alexander Ljung, SoundCloud 10/04/10
Andy Lo Russo, The Singing Chef 12/16/05
Phil Lobel, Lobeline Communications 08/13/04
Paul Lohr, New Frontier Touring 01/21/05
Paul Lohr, New Frontier Touring 05/17/10
Julie Lokin, New Audiences 03/23/01
Dave Lory, Artemis Records 03/30/02
Max Loubiere, Tour Director 04/11/12
Mark Lourie, Skyline Music 03/08/02
Dave Lucas, Live-360 04/28/06
Joe Lucchese, EventJoe 02/23/07
Kevin Lyman, 4 fini 03/30/01
Kevin Lyman, Vans Warped Tour 05/23/12
Jennifer Lyon, MeanRed Productions 01/18/18
Bubba Mac, 09/14/07
David Macias, Emergent Music Marketing 06/17/05
Kristen Madsen, Grammy Foundation and MusiCares 11/22/10
Larry Magid, Larry Magid Entertainment 05/04/10
Peter Malkin, PM Management 02/07/03
Toby Mamis, Alive Enterprises 02/12/01
Billy Mann, Green & Bloom | Topl1ne, Manncom 09/18/14
Tasea Margeolas, Multi Entertainment 06/23/06
Tony Margherita, dBpm Records 09/06/11
Bob Roux & Mark Campana, Live Nation 12/20/11
Lee Marshall, Magic Arts & Entertainment 09/13/02
Zach Martin, Radio Producer at New York's WAXQ-FM 08/30/02
Mario Martin, Gorgeous PR 04/27/07
Molly Martinez, Ticket Summit 2008 05/23/08
Paul Mascioli, Mascioli Entertainment 01/14/05
Michael Maska, Big Hassle 01/28/05
Ted Mason, Mi-5 Recordings 11/16/01
Steve Masur, Masur & Associates, LLC 11/21/03
Pam Matthews, The Ryman Auditorium 04/08/05
Terry McBride, Nettwerk Music Group 03/01/10
Michael McCarty, ole 06/20/11
Jim McDonald, McDonald Group 12/19/03
Virginia McEnerney, HeadCount 11/26/07
Doc McGhee, McGhee Entertainment 06/14/10
Camilla McGuinn, Tour Manager 08/24/07
Andy McLean, North By Northeast (NXNE) 04/01/05
Dennis McNally, Grateful Dead historian/publicist 09/06/02
Garry McQuinn, Back Row Productions 06/14/11
Ruthann McTyre, The Rita Benton Music Library; and president of the Music Library Association 08/31/10
Dick McVey, Musician's Referral Service 10/27/07
Katherine McVicker, Music Works International 01/08/15
John Meglen, Concerts West/AEG Live 02/21/13
Mark Meharry, Music Glue 05/28/15
Jorge Mejia, Sony/ATV Music Publishing 09/17/15
Dan Melnick, Festival Productions, Inc. 02/22/02
André Ménard, Festival International de Jazz de Montréal 06/12/09
Bob Merlis, Merlis For Hire/Memphis International Records 01/16/04
Doug Merrick, Cumberland Talent Agency and Merrick Music Group 07/21/06
Louis Messina, The Messina Group 10/22/04
Louis Messina, The Messina Group/AEG Live 07/17/09
Louis Jay Meyers, North American Folk Music and Dance Alliance 03/30/07
Louis Jay Meyers, Folk Alliance International 01/23/09
Todd Miller, House Of Blues - New Orleans 11/14/03
Jeff Miller, Fantasma Productions 03/16/07
Ben Miller, Rock Ridge Music 11/02/07
J. B. Miller, Empire Entertainment 08/22/08
Richard Mills, S.L. Feldman 11/02/09
Marty Monson, Barbershop Harmony Society 07/07/16
Linda Moran, Songwriters Hall of Fame (SHOF) 04/05/09
Jesse Morreale, Nobody In Particular Presents (NIPP) 09/20/02
Chuck Morris, Live Rocky Mountains 09/28/09
Mo Morrison, Independent production 05/24/02
Kevin Morrow, Steel Wool Entertainment 01/25/17
Nick Moss, Blue Bella Records 11/30/07
Jim Musselman, Appleseed Recordings 04/14/06
Natalia Nastaskin, United Talent Agency 04/13/16
Marc Nathan, Flagship Records 07/01/05
David Neilon, Rising Star Promotions 11/30/01
Don Neuen, Star Coaches Inc. 10/10/12
Dennis Newhall, DIG Music 10/07/05
John Nittolo, John Nittolo Productions 04/13/07
Ian Noble, Metropolitan Talent 05/23/03
Fabricio Nobre, A Construtora Música e Cultura 05/04/17
Josh Norek, JN Media, LLC 07/05/02
David Norman, Tour Manager 04/20/07
Mimi Northcott, Canadian Recording Services (CRS) 04/11/08
Bill Nowlin, Rounder Records 01/05/07
John Nugent, NY JAM Inc. 11/08/02
Andy Nulman, Just For Laughs 11/20/13
Sal Nunziato, NYCD 06/01/01
Bob O'Neal, Ryman Auditorium 06/28/02
Andrea Orbeck, Prehab Health and Fitness 03/15/10
Heather Orser, Toad's Place 01/29/01
Janet Oseroff, MultiMediaProperties 11/18/05
Marc Ostrow, Boosey & Hawkes 12/05/08
Riley O’Connor, Live Nation Canada 07/24/09
Jeremy Palmer, Buddy Lee Attractions 11/02/01
John Palmer, Megawave Records 08/31/07
Panos Panay, Sonicbids 12/23/05
Julien Paquin, Paquin Artists Agency 04/30/14
Graham Parker, WQXR-FM 11/26/14
Crispin Parry, British Underground 02/24/08
Donald Passman, Gang, Tyre, Ramer & Brown 04/09/10
Donald S. Passman, Gang, Tyre, Ramer & Brown 01/06/16
Bruce Patron, Overland Entertainment 07/28/06
Alexandra Patsavas, Chop Shop Music 09/27/11
Cheryl Pawelski, Omnivore Entertainment Group 09/26/13
Kerry Peace, Alligator Records 08/18/06
Eric Peltoniemi, Red House Records 12/14/09
Scott Perry, Sperry Media 03/11/05
Lawrence Peryer, Jr., 23 Omnimedia 11/07/08
John Peters, MassConcerts 06/07/11
Holger Petersen, Stony Plain Records 04/15/05
Jon Phillips, Silverback Professional Artist Mgmt/Controlled Substance Sound 08/29/08
Dave Pichilingi, Sound City 03/30/16
Vince Pileggi, Music Inc./Music Inc. Sounds 12/01/06
Eric Pirritt, Endit! Presents / The Fox Theatre 10/17/03
Neil Portnow, The Recording Academy 02/08/11
Louis Posen, Hopeless Records 04/04/11
Stephen Posen, Estate of Glenn Gould 01/23/13
Nadia Prescher, Madison House 06/20/03
Jeff Price, TuneCore 02/28/11
Tom Principato, Powerhouse Records 02/01/08
Roger Probert, Core Records 12/08/06
John "Grinder" Procaccini, JP Squared (JP2) 01/17/03
Mark Pucci, Independent Music Publicist 09/09/05
David Pullman, The Pullman Group 11/03/00
Rod Quinton, Saigon Sound System 04/18/11
Dolphus Ramseur, Ramseur Records 10/19/07
Jack Randall, Ted Kurland Associates 04/05/02
Jack Randall, The Kurland Agency 03/08/17
Debra Rathwell, AEG Live 05/03/13
Jeff Ravitz, Visual Terrain 02/08/08
Paul Reed, Association of Independent Festivals (AIF) 06/14/17
Rich Rees, M.P.I. Talent Agency 09/19/08
John Reese, Freeze Artist Management 08/01/08
Bill Reeves, WRIII, Inc. 10/20/06
Stephen Rehage, Rehage Entertainment 07/30/04
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Salaam Remi, Composer, producer, musician and label executive. 01/08/14
David Renzer, Universal Music Publishing Group 08/23/09
Alison Richard, Universal Orlando Resort 05/06/05
Kelli Richards, The All Access Group 02/07/12
Gary Richards, HARD Events 08/29/13
Sam Righi, Waterfront Entertainment Group 05/30/03
Jon Rinaldo, Joker Productions 01/02/04
Geary Rindels, Geary Rindels Enterprises, Inc. 12/05/03
Doreen Ringer Ross, BMI 01/18/08
Lisette Rioux, Island Def Jam Music Group 05/16/03
Dave Roberge, Everfine Records & Everfine Artist Management 12/03/04
Sandy Roberton, Worlds End Producer Management 02/20/09
Ty Roberts, Gracenote 01/31/12
Bill Rogers, BRE Presents 07/13/07
Ian Rogers, Topspin Media 06/01/10
Benji Rogers, PledgeMusic 12/19/13
Dave Rose, Deep South Entertainment 09/15/06
Eric Rosen, Ronald S. Bienstock & Associates 05/25/01
Stuart Ross, The Ross Group 02/23/01
David Ross, President IAAM; Director, Show Me Center 09/23/05
Jack Ross, APA Canada 09/07/17
Bobby Rossi, Ruth Eckerd Hall 02/28/03
Michael Rothschild, Landslide Records 04/29/05
Robert Rowland, Red Entertainment 06/13/08
Bill Royston, Mt. Hood Jazz Festival 03/07/03
John Rudolph, Bug Music 05/24/10
Elizabeth Rush, E.R.A. / Elizabeth Rush Agency 08/20/04
Aran Rush, Expo and Foro Imperial 02/16/07
Maurice Russell, Harry Fox Agency 10/21/05
Barron Ruth, Skyline Music 02/14/03
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Numa Saisselin, Count Basie Theatre, Inc. 02/04/05
Ron Sakamoto, Gold & Gold Productions 01/16/10
David Salidor, dis Company 07/20/07
Shaw Saltzberg, S. L. Feldman and Associates 06/21/10
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Mark Samuels, Basin Street Records 06/11/04
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Tamara Saviano, American Roots Publishing 07/22/05
Tamara Saviano, Author, journalist, and producer 08/18/16
Michael Scafuto, Mountain High Entertainment 12/07/01
Steve Schankman, Contemporary Productions 12/21/01
Steve Scharf, Carlin America 10/11/02
John Scher, Metropolitan Talent 11/21/08
Al Schmitt, Producer/Engineer 02/13/10
Bobby Schneider, Tour Coordinator, Third Eye Blind 01/31/03
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Steven Schnur, EA Music Group 07/03/13
Elaine Schock, Shock Ink 02/19/10
Stacy Schott, Mad Booking and Events 08/22/03
Daylle Schwartz, Revenge Productions 08/19/05
Dean Sciarra, ItsAboutMusic.com 11/26/04
Joel Selvin, Author and Journalist 08/07/14
Jay Sendyk, Sendyk, Leonard & Company, Inc. 05/03/02
Jonathan Shank, Red Light Management 12/13/17
Peter Shapiro, Ideal Entertainment 04/16/04
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Jay Sieleman, The Blues Foundation 07/18/03
Anya Siglin, The Ark 03/05/10
Bill Silva, Bill Silva Entertainment 10/19/10
Tom Silverman, Tommy Boy Entertainment 03/06/12
Steve Simon, Clear Channel Communications 05/14/04
Ralph Simon, Live Earth 07/06/07
Ralph Simon, Mobilium 04/12/11
Michael Simon, The Harry Fox Agency 08/14/13
Ron Simpson, RCS Productions 01/11/08
John Simson, SoundExchange 07/15/05
Dion Singer, Warner Bros. 12/07/09
Gram Slaton, The Community Arts Center 02/25/05
Owen Sloane, Gladstone Michel Weisberg Willner & Sloane 10/11/10
Peter Smidt, Eurosonic Noorderslag & manager Buma Cultuur 07/17/13
Garrison Snell, Gyrosity Projects 02/23/17
Mike Snider, Paradigm Talent Agency Nashville 05/17/11
Andrew Snowhite, Musictoday 05/04/01
Bruce Solar, The Agency Group 05/14/14
Nikki Solgot, Circle Talent Agency 02/18/15
Michael Solomon, Brick Wall Management 05/25/07
Mark Sonder, Mark Sonder Productions 07/25/08
Steve Sonnier, UIC Pavilion at the University of Illinois, Chicago 09/03/04
Kathy Spanberger, peermusic 06/20/12
Carolyn Specht, CIE USA Entertainment Inc. and OCESA PRESENTS Inc. 03/26/04
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Jason Spiewak, Rock Ridge Music 04/07/06
Dan Steinberg, Square Peg Concerts 11/29/12
Dan Steinberg, Square Peg Concerts 02/18/05
Jeremy Stephan, Ventures, LLC 04/23/04
Walter Stewart, Mars Talent Agency 02/21/03
Gail Stocker, Gail Stocker Presents 11/12/04
Jon Stoll, Fantasma Productions 10/13/00
Jesse Stoll, AEG 06/27/09
Henry Stone, Henry Stone Music 06/24/05
Jason Stone, Live Nation New York 03/31/06
Howard Stovall, Resource Entertainment Group 05/28/04
Cameron Strang, New West Records 10/18/02
Don Strasburg, AEG Live Rocky Mountains 02/27/09
Barbara Strauss, Sovereign Ventures 05/12/06
Richard Stumpf, Cherry Lane Publishing 08/07/06
Deb Suckling, SUGARRUSH Music 07/27/17
Patrick Sullivan, RightsFlow 10/25/11
Bernie Swain & Harry Rhodes, Jr., Washington Speakers Bureau 12/07/00
Dean Swett, Paramour Group 06/14/02
Jake Szufnarowski, Rocks Off 05/02/08
Marc Tanner, Chime Entertainment 12/22/06
Donald Tarlton, The Donald K Donald Group 04/12/02
Tess Taylor, Los Angeles Music Network 08/09/02
Race Taylor, WPLJ - New York 10/27/06
Race Taylor, WPLJ - New York 10/27/06
Chris Taylor, Taylor 03/15/09
Peter Tempkins, DeWitt Stern Group 03/16/01
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Lisa Tenner, Tenner & Associates (EAT'M) 08/06/01
Jeremy Tepper, Diesel Only Records 10/10/03
Allan Tepper, Bicycle Music Company 09/28/07
Martin Terefe, Kensaltown Studios 05/31/11
Milun Tesovic, MetroLeap Media 10/18/09
Mandar Thakur, Times Music 08/06/15
Jerry Thompson, Promoter Line Inc. 03/05/04
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Adam Tobey, Concert Ideas 08/24/17
Rob Tonkin, Marketing Factory 12/17/15
John "J.T." Toomey, 25/8 Management 11/15/11
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Phil Tripp, IMMEDIA! 01/19/06
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Chris Tsakalakis, StubHub 01/11/10
Ben Turner, Graphite Media 05/10/10
Steve Vai, Favored Nations Entertainment 04/26/02
John Valentino, Fantasma Productions 04/18/03
John Valentino, AEG Live SE 11/01/10
Don Van Cleave, Coalition of Independent Music Stores 04/09/04
Casey Verbeck, Partners in Music 06/06/03
David "Boche" Viecelli, The Billions Corporation 04/18/10
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Mat Vlasic, Bravado 06/28/17
Ray Waddell, Billboard Magazine 08/27/04
Rob Waggener, Foundations Recovery Network 03/07/11
Jim Walczak, Racine Civic Centre 06/03/05
Jeff Walker, The AristoMedia Group 08/16/10
Carla Wallace, Big Yellow Dog Music 11/04/05
Russell Wallach, Live Nation Network 03/20/12
Steve Walter, The Cutting Room 10/24/08
Neil Warnock, The Agency Group 05/02/09
Diane Warren, Realsongs 08/14/09
Butch Waugh, RCA Label Group Nashville 01/10/03
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Ken Weinstein, Big Hassle Media 04/22/05
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Adam Wilkes, AEG Live Asia 10/13/16
Fenton Williams, 04/04/08
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Paul Williams, ASCAP 10/19/11
J.P. Williams, Parallel Entertainment 10/03/12
Kurt Willms, Green Room Productions 09/20/03
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Tom Windish, The Windish Agency 07/26/10
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Thom Wolke, Twincloud.com 02/08/02
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